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#311447 - 11/30/02 06:20 PM Self meatotomy
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My piercer can't do scalpel work and advised me to try a home meatotomy to enlarge my urethra (I need to get a 00 ga ring into a tight 2 ga PA opening).

Question is, where do you find pics and how-to ideas on this? Googling yields lots of surgical fee schedules, porn sites, and nothing in between. Has anyone photographed it and posted the results?

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#311448 - 11/30/02 07:56 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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Your piercer needs a lobotomy. Go see a doctor.
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#311449 - 11/30/02 09:05 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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Why don't you just shove a 000 gauge taper into your urethra. or start sounding.
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#311450 - 11/30/02 09:16 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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This might sound stupid, and I hope no one laughs, but what is sounding? I've heard the term used before, but I have no clue what it is. Thanks!!

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#311451 - 11/30/02 09:18 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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sounding = shoving objects into your urethra. if you look in the medical toys section of BMESHOP they have some sounds you can see
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#311452 - 11/30/02 09:57 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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I hate to sound dumb..but why does it have to be 00 why can't it be just a 2? confused I'm awfully confused here..

As for the whole..thing you want to do. Don't do it yourself, don't listen to your piercer, as John said that's insane. Go to a doctor and have them do it if you absolutely must have this done. eek

I guess you could do what Nippleplay said..though it makes me cringe thinking of it..though i guess either way you're in pain, so..whatever right? :rolleyes:

Good luck and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go see a doctor or surgeon, don't chop your peenie apart by yourself. If something goes wrong do you really want to blame yourself? laugh
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#311453 - 11/30/02 09:59 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ashli: don't chop your peenie apart by yourself
HAHA. that sounds so absurd, even though I know it happends.
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#311454 - 11/30/02 10:34 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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#311455 - 11/30/02 10:44 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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I aim to please. I thought it was rather absurd after I wrote it..I'm 18 and I say peenie..I just like that word..the way it rolls off your tongue. laugh
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#311456 - 12/01/02 04:44 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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HAHA. Yeah my brother and I used to run around saying it constantly when we were little.
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#311457 - 12/01/02 05:09 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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LMAO!! I'm 18, and I say peenie all the time, too!!! Too funny. Anyway, is sounding the same thing as wanding? Awhile back ago, someone had posted something about the triangle piercing, and she left a link to a website, which I don't remember. This website had something about wanding on it. I'm just curious. I wouldn't ever do it, because, LORDY!!! WOULD THAT HURT!!! eek Anyway, I would probably get a new piercer, too. Plus, I'm just as curious as to why it has to be 00. Why don't you go to a 0 first, and then go to a 00. Just a suggestion. Have fun playing with your peenie!!!

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#311458 - 12/01/02 07:46 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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Thanks John (and everyone) but have you seen those surgeon's fee schedules? Sounds are an option I am trying but the pain is intense. It might be easier to do it once with a knife, and have it done!

But do you have to cut the meatus (mine is small enough already - I don't want that big ring hanging by a thread)? I would like to make a snip in the top half of the slit, not the meatus, and dunno whether this is dangerous...

and pictures/experienced advice are always best.

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#311459 - 12/01/02 09:42 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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Quote:
Originally posted by geoa:
and dunno whether this is dangerous...

and pictures/experienced advice are always best.
Um, yes, it would be quite dangerous. Good Lord, go to a dr. I realize the cost of health care in today's America is very high. But imagine the cost of the Emergency Room bill you will be facing if you do indeed decide to perform this surgery yourself. The Ambulance alone, and 911 call would be enough to scare you. I have no experience or pictures in this subject, other than the common sense adult kind that say... "Don't do this!!!"
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#311460 - 12/01/02 10:43 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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A Meatis is the OPENING of a tube (Urethra). The urethral meatis is a very thin band of smooth muscle and elastic, tough skin. You can stretch it out, but it'll take TIME.

Sounding is very pleasurable for some guys, excruciating for others. There are health risks, of course, so research is required. Urinary Tract Infections are painfull and sometimes hard to treat.

PLEASE put the idea of using a knife out of your head.
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#311461 - 12/01/02 11:31 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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This is interesting. There is a sizable lot of the piercing community, well represented by BME, who believe that self-surgery is not only fun (and erotic), but preferable to inexperienced jabs by overpriced doctors, who charge too much anyway.

My piercer, who steered me to Tribalectic for custom jewelry, offered his honest opinion, that self-surgery of this kind is common and harm is limited and unlikely. He provided me with the name of someone in Phoenix, not a doctor, who will do such surgery for a fee. He would not, however, perform the surgery in his office and offered a long explanation involving California legal code. Having operated a small business myself, I can't ask him to jeopardize his license.

Your consensual opinion seems to take the medical profession's side, or to "just-say-no" and resort to stretching. I think I'll take the latter approach. Thanks all for a useful board.

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#311462 - 12/01/02 01:58 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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its all fun and games till someone dies of septic shock.
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#311463 - 12/01/02 03:40 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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It sounds (pun intended) as if this thread has already run its course but I'll throw in my two cents anyway.

PA are fairly easy to stretch and so is the urethra it just takes some time. To me it seems that slow stretching the piercing would be an obvious choice as opposed to some surgical procedure regaurdless of who was doing it.
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#311464 - 12/01/02 06:13 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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I hope you exercise some common sense since your piercer has none at all. I don't have alot to add but to reiterate John and Seth's oppinion. I don't have that particular piercing because I don't have those parts. I DO, however stretch these piercings on other people. It is quick and appears very painless. The tissue is also extremely stretchable and gives easy.

Also, if this is such a simple task that the average joe can do it on himself, why isn't your trained perfessional comfortable doing it? Another thing: as a piercer with ethics I would never plant that idea in the head of one of my clients because I care about their well being, whether they are a regular or a one time piercee. If anyone of them came to me with a task that I was at all uncomfortable doing, I would find a reputable shop that would.

So instead of seeking pointers on how to potentially destroy a very important part of your body maybe someone can direct you towards a professional that is competant enough to perform this particular project for you. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I'm really appalled that your piercer recommended this to you.

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#311465 - 12/01/02 06:49 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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One more thing - thanks to ashli, michelle and MafiaGirl, we needed "peenie" - "penis" is so damned clinical, and who wants to nuzzle up to a dick or a cock or a wang or John Thomas, anyway?

No, now, now, don't all raise your hands at once!

You guys/gals are just great, thanks for the good advice and will keep you posted if/when results..

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#311466 - 12/01/02 07:13 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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wink it's really a
Peawhistle.
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#311467 - 12/02/02 12:16 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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I HIGHLY doubt it, but if they did they'd certainly wouldn't want anyone going around talking about it. Many trained and experienced pierces do things that are safe and effective, yet illegal (dermal punch for instance) and some even go to jail (2 piercers in Florida).

I emplore you, IF YOU FIND A "PIERCER" WHO DOES THIS FOR YOU, DO NOT TELL US ABOUT IT AND DO NOT REVEAL HIS/HER NAME...our industry doesn't need the bad press.

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#311468 - 12/02/02 12:39 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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why is it illegal to stretch someone's urethra? ...er sorry peenie hole
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#311469 - 12/02/02 05:45 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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Quote:
Originally posted by geoa:
My piercer can't do scalpel work and advised me to try a home meatotomy to enlarge my urethra (I need to get a 00 ga ring into a tight 2 ga PA opening).

Question is, where do you find pics and how-to ideas on this? Googling yields lots of surgical fee schedules, porn sites, and nothing in between. Has anyone photographed it and posted the results?
Um.. He wants to cut his peawhistle/peenie with a knife.. or have someone perform this for him, I think. The hole. Where you go potty. With a knife. Ouch. *shudder*
Coming at people with a knife be it at the "thingy" or not I think, I think is illegal. If not it oughtta be. But, I am kind of a sissy mary, so correct me if I am wrong.
Stretching sounds safer. I dunno.
Please mr geoa, go see a dr. if this is indeed a problem for you. Doesn't a sterile clean environment with licensed health care professionals sound more enticing? What if all those bad things that could happen do? It's your peawhistle/peenie for crying out loud. Do what is best for it. It will thank you later.
Say you will, please?! So I can sleep better.
Thankyou.
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#311470 - 12/02/02 07:51 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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I personally would never let a knife anywhere near my goods..let alone by a piercer or myself. A doctor maybe, but I think I like myself juuuussttt fine thank you. No knives for me! laugh I'm a girl by the way, before anyone starts talking about my peenie..I don't have one. :rolleyes:

Just be careful and uh..I hope you're not going to do this yourself..A peenie is a precious thing..I certainly wouldn't mess with it..Poking holes with needles is one thing, but whiskin' away at yer good ol' winky is another. eek

And your welcome..I can say penis if I want, I just prefer peenie..It's in my personality I guess. laugh :p
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#311471 - 12/03/02 02:04 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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*note* there will be cussing in this post

Alright sense you obviously have no common sense let me make this really simple for you to understand. Not only would it be REALLY f___ing painful to cut into part of your dick with a scalpel (done it) It's stupid. You don't know sh_t about
a)procedure
b)sterilization
c)cross contamination
you really want to shove a f___ing scalpel into your DICK, most men's favorite body part (excluding women's parts wink ) just so that you can stretch out a piercing?!?!?!?

You, my friend, are a (deleted by moderator).
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#311472 - 12/03/02 03:11 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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JLO...where is it illegal to dermal punch?

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#311473 - 12/03/02 02:51 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spudly Puddle Butt:
JLO...where is it illegal to dermal punch?

-spud
I know i'm not JLo, But, using a Dermal Punch without a valid medical license is a crime in the United States.
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#311474 - 12/03/02 04:50 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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any specific documentation on this?
i'm really curious to know.

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#311475 - 12/03/02 06:33 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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Quote:
Originally posted by NipplePlay:
*note* there will be cussing in this post

Alright sense you obviously have no common sense let me make this really simple for you to understand. Not only would it be REALLY f___ing painful to cut into part of your dick with a scalpel (done it) It's stupid. You don't know shit about
a)procedure
b)sterilization
c)cross contamination
you really want to shove a f___ing scalpel into your DICK, most men's favorite body part (excluding women's parts wink ) just so that you can stretch out a piercing?!?!?!?

You, my friend, are a (deleted by moderator).
Well said (dispite the profanity, but understandable).
Plus the fact that it is IRREVERSABLE! You slip, and cut something wrong, not only do you risk MAJOR damage, if you cut something they way you don't want it, it is stuck like that. Plus since there is so much blood flow in that area, infections will spread into your blood stream faster. Bad mental picture, you getting off on cutting it, and blood spirting out of the cut when you get excited.

Dude, just DONT do it. And if you do, you will get absolutely NO suport or advice from us.
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#311476 - 12/03/02 06:58 PM Re: Self meatotomy
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I should be slapped for adding to this thread, but oh well.

After reading the posts that were here on this subject yesterday - I did some searching of my own. As the initial poster said, it's difficult to find much of anything. However, I did find several different "personal experiences" on BME, and a few other pages here and there that discussed similar topics. And no, I'm not posting them here.

Anyway - I think it's important for people not to attack individuals with this "YOU FUCKING IDIOT" type stuff. This person had a legitimate question - despite what I personally think about such a procedure - it appears that he truly was seeking information - and he also took the time to stop back and thank those who've posted for their responses. That is far more than many people do... So for that, I thank him.

Now - as for the procedure itself:
Folks, it's very easy to tell people "I wouldn't do that" - it's very easy to say "OMG I can't believe you would do this" - or "OMG your PIERCER said THAT!?"... But in all of that - you've accomplished very little.

The fact is: With every type of bod-mod known to mankind - there ARE cases where people have tried things at home - many times with serious problems - and many times without. However, because "someone" did something and it was "ok" - doesn't mean it will be for you. It also doesn't mean it won't.

The issue isn't to question whether or not it's intelligent to do this type of thing - it's to question whether or not you are truly prepared to deal with whatever risks you may be taking. And the only way to truly prepare for those risks is to fully understand what exactly those risks are.

Sure, cutting your dick and getting a slightly bad movement - and in the meantime lopping off a chunk of something you'd have preferred to keep - would be nasty... But honestly, a serious bacterial infection in that area could cause you far more problems... So yeah, you need to fully understand the risks that come with anything you consider - this holds true no matter what the mod. and no matter who's doing it.

Many, many times - a person's sole argument for doing something is because they've read things or known another person who did it and had decent luck. But ya know, I know people who have given themselves homemade tattoos - and had no trouble. I know folks who've pierced their eyebrows with safety pins - and had no trouble... I also know someone who had a severe allergic reation to the ink that his buddy used in a homemade tattoo - and a girl who got a hideous infection in an eyebrow due to a safety pin piercing - which left her face permanently changed in that area - and it looks pretty nasty. At the same time - there are people who follow the rules - and still have complications.

Point is - all modifications to a human body carry risks... But the less informed you are - and the less professional the modification itself is - the more risks you're adding into an already risky matter.

These things don't seem nearly as "real" until you've experienced them - hence, many of us take risks we might not otherwise take.

I wouldn't suggest attempting this type of thing on your own. There are other avenues, which when weighed out, seem to be the obviously less risky options. And for your own protection - I think you'd be smart to just not take any chances. John has given you some good advice, as have a few others... If you've read through the posts here, you can probably already tell who your more serious, informed, and non-judgemental people are. Take their advice. I've yet to make a wrong move when following John's advice.

Ultimately, the decision will be your own... I'm not into name-calling and childish insults - so regardless of your final decision - I wish you luck. But please - above all else - before you decide - be absolutely positive that you've considered all the aspects of this action... Be sure you've considered *all* the legitimate risks - and their potential hazards... If you do so, I'm fairly sure this is something you'll be willing to do a different way.

Have a nice day laugh

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#311477 - 12/04/02 12:04 AM Re: Self meatotomy
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As stated in the Forum Rules, we do not give out self piercing information. We may discuss why or why not in it's own thread, but Tribalectic and/or it's members and contributors will not risk possible legal actions.

Sorry. If you don't like the rules then you can't play here. That goes for language too.

Thank you, drive through.
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