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#268998 - 07/09/03 09:59 AM Re: A really hard day
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As an alternative way of looking at things, how many crooked people are there out there? Why we expect cops to be these whiter than white upholders of the law is beyond me. Over here a guy got shot for having an Irish accent and a coffee table leg in a plastic bag.

I used to go out with a girly police person and I know exactly how normal they are.
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#268999 - 07/09/03 10:10 AM Re: A really hard day
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i dont know..i think if you choose to be a cop you shouldnt be crooked, and if you are then dont be a cop. Its not as simple as that, i know, but i think that they have a responsibility..because if the ones that enforce the law are crooked, then what good is the law itself?
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#269000 - 07/10/03 12:56 AM Re: A really hard day
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Originally posted by GabooN:
i dont know..i think if you choose to be a cop you shouldnt be crooked, and if you are then dont be a cop. Its not as simple as that, i know, but i think that they have a responsibility..because if the ones that enforce the law are crooked, then what good is the law itself?
Well, it would be nice if everyone who made a choice made it altruistically. Anyone who becomes a Doctor shouldn't sell drugs. Anyone who becomes a Gyno shouldn't assault women. Anyone who becomes a carer shouldn't abuse the carees. The list goes on and on. Being a Cop means having power and successive studies show that the police force attracts primarily right with believers in an authoritarian regime. Not the type you associate with caring and sharing. Police have power and power attracts the corruptable.
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#269001 - 07/10/03 01:25 AM Re: A really hard day
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Damn, that sucks!! I hope the dude in ICU recovers quickly.
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#269002 - 07/10/03 01:46 AM Re: A really hard day
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Originally posted by Narniacat:
people need to learn to shoot to wound and disable not to kill. mc5 do you lern to shoot to wound or to kill? any other policemen here to explain their training methods?
it has been my understanding, that if cops shoot, they shoot to kill...being that just wounding someone is too much of a legal liability for the officer.

t'is sad imho.

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#269003 - 07/10/03 04:09 AM Re: A really hard day
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Wow, I'm sorry to hear about your friends Nippleplay, It sure does put a different perspective on my view of the police.
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#269004 - 07/10/03 06:56 AM Re: A really hard day
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This discussion reminds me of one I had a while back about a cop shooting to kill but in this case it was the family dog who took the bullet. A family was pulled over and cuffed in a case of mistaken identity, and the teeenaged son kept telling the cop "Our dogs in there, be careful he doesn't run away". The cop opened the the back door of the car, the dog jumped out and he shot it claiming it lunged at him in attack. We came to the conclusion that cops are too wound up for action and fatally overreact because they believe a situation is more dangerous than it is. The cops here are trained to shoot to injure only if a danger is immediately present (like being fired upon). But they still get trigger happy. It's a shame.
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#269005 - 07/10/03 07:23 AM Re: A really hard day
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Originally posted by HappyGirl49:
This discussion reminds me of one I had a while back about a cop shooting to kill but in this case it was the family dog who took the bullet. A family was pulled over and cuffed in a case of mistaken identity, and the teeenaged son kept telling the cop "Our dogs in there, be careful he doesn't run away". The cop opened the the back door of the car, the dog jumped out and he shot it claiming it lunged at him in attack. We came to the conclusion that cops are too wound up for action and fatally overreact because they believe a situation is more dangerous than it is. The cops here are trained to shoot to injure only if a danger is immediately present (like being fired upon). But they still get trigger happy. It's a shame.
I remember that. That was just terrible.
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#269006 - 07/10/03 08:07 AM Re: A really hard day
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Originally posted by GabooN:
i dont know..i think if you choose to be a cop you shouldnt be crooked, and if you are then dont be a cop. Its not as simple as that, i know, but i think that they have a responsibility..because if the ones that enforce the law are crooked, then what good is the law itself?
Who is to say this cop was being crooked though? If they had shot him in the leg, it may have brought him down, but it also would have given him the opportunity to fire back risking the cops life. We say the cop is crooked and how horrible it is simply because it happened to a friend of someone on the boards when no one knows really if the guy deserved it. The story probably isn't even being transferred right because we all know how reliable the media is...

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#269007 - 07/10/03 09:11 AM Re: A really hard day
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Originally posted by AshyBear1983:
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Originally posted by GabooN:
i dont know..i think if you choose to be a cop you shouldnt be crooked, and if you are then dont be a cop. Its not as simple as that, i know, but i think that they have a responsibility..because if the ones that enforce the law are crooked, then what good is the law itself?
Who is to say this cop was being crooked though? If they had shot him in the leg, it may have brought him down, but it also would have given him the opportunity to fire back risking the cops life. We say the cop is crooked and how horrible it is simply because it happened to a friend of someone on the boards when no one knows really if the guy deserved it. The story probably isn't even being transferred right because we all know how reliable the media is...
oh i agree with you..i was only saying this stuff because someone mentioned crooked cops and how they are just like the rest of us, which i know, but i feel that they have a responsiblity to not 'be like the rest of us' at least while they are on the job.
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